Monday, June 13, 2005

Mike Tyson

In liu of Mike Tyson's recent loss and consequential retirement, I've been reading some of his quotes, they've for the most part been pretty crazy. Here's an interesting one:

"I feel like sometimes that I was born, that I'm not meant for this society because everyone here is a f**king hypocrite. Everybody says they believe in God but they don't do God's work. Everybody counteracts what God is really about. If Jesus was here, do you think Jesus would show me any love? Do you think Jesus would love me? I'm a Muslim, but do you think Jesus would love me ... I think Jesus would have a drink with me and discuss ... why you acting like that? Now, he would be cool. He would talk to me. No Christian ever did that and said in the name of Jesus even ... They'd throw me in jail and write bad articles about me and then go to church on Sunday and say Jesus is a wonderful man and he's coming back to save us. But they don't understand that when he comes back, that these crazy greedy capitalistic men are gonna kill him again."

13 Comments:

Blogger Adam said...

Wow. That's actually a pretty sane quote. I really can't say I disagree with it for the most part.

8:20 PM  
Blogger Kirk Taskila said...

hmmm...Jesus drank? On second thought...I didn't think Muslims were supposed to drink.

Somehow I don't think my faith in God is going to come from the preaching of Mike Tyson.

7:50 AM  
Blogger Dan Price said...

Yeppers Jesus drank.

8:16 AM  
Blogger Kirk Taskila said...

Well, I knew he turned the water into wine at the wedding and I know about the last supper (using wine as a representation of his blood) but I didn't recall him actually partaking in either. (oops, I do remember that he dunk his bread into his wine and Judas revealed himself, my bad...)

Personally, I think he only drank Budweiser in a can. ;)

1:29 PM  
Blogger Dan Price said...

Nice

1:29 PM  
Blogger thejrmillers said...

that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard, kirk. EVERYONE knows that Jesus drank Guinness...

7:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i don't see why some of our faith can't come from what mike tyson said just because he is mike tyson. i think that he has a very legitimate argument and there's no doubt in my mind that the capitalists would kill Jesus if they gained a profit by it. i don't know why we as Christians don't sit down and enjoy a beverage with our fellow mike tysons more often anyways.

8:47 PM  
Blogger Dan Price said...

well said annon. I agree.

9:54 PM  
Blogger Connor said...

me too.

4:57 PM  
Blogger Travis said...

I think a good question to ask in relation Tyson's is who actually killed Jesus back in the day?

Jon Meacham's Answer

Paul Maier's answer

I think we should wonder if it is possible for the crowd's cries of "Hosanna! Hosanna!" to change so quickly to "Crucify Him! Crucify Him!" Perhaps the group crying the latter was a specific selection of Jews -- primarily the temple elite -- that had not only relgious motivation, but political and economic motivation as well. (Especially after incidents like the clearing of the temple itself.) We should ask, "Who benefits?"

In looking at what Jesus taught during his short time in the city of Jerusalem, alongside his resurrection and 'love your neighbor as yourself', he spoke largely upon money, authority, the state, and how they each intersect with the church. These are the tools of capitalists; which I would briefly define as 'owners' of property who know how to take advantage of a situation -- to exploit it for the sake of their own profit generally at the expense of others.

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He went on to tell the people this parable: "A man planted a vineyard, rented it to some farmers and went away for a long time. At harvest time he sent a servant to the tenants so they would give him some of the fruit of the vineyard. But the tenants beat him and sent him away empty-handed. He sent another servant, but that one also they beat and treated shamefully and sent away empty-handed. He sent still a third, and they wounded him and threw him out.

"Then the owner of the vineyard said, 'What shall I do? I will send my son, whom I love; perhaps they will respect him.'

"But when the tenants saw him, they talked the matter over. 'This is the heir,' they said. 'Let's kill him, and the inheritance will be ours.' So they threw him out of the vineyard and killed him.

"What then will the owner of the vineyard do to them? He will come and kill those tenants and give the vineyard to others." When the people heard this, they said, "May this never be!"

Jesus looked directly at them and asked, "Then what is the meaning of that which is written:
" 'The stone the builders rejected
has become the capstone'? Everyone who falls on that stone will be broken to pieces, but he on whom it falls will be crushed."

The teachers of the law and the chief priests looked for a way to arrest him immediately, because they knew he had spoken this parable against them. But they were afraid of the people.

11:41 PM  
Blogger Great Expectations said...

I certainly enjoyed reading the quote. I'm fascinated and often drawn like eyes to a car wreck when anyone says anything about Jesus.

As for its accuracy, application and value, I prefer to consult Nietschze and Hunter Thompson, whose lives ended a lot more happy, sane and fulfilled than I think Mike Tyson's will.

When will we stop trying to pander to people's oddest proclivities and give them straight love and truth? Regardless of what Tyson claims, his main problem isn't what Christians have done to him. "A man's own folly subverts his way, yet his heart rages against the Lord."

7:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Umm...

The quote is same enough. But as to having a drink with Iron Mike?

History shows it to be ill advised to be in the same bar with Tyson.

5:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sane enough, rather

5:00 PM  

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